Giants 2 anyone?

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Giants 2 anyone?

Post by CrapHeap » Sun Jan 23, 2011 11:48 am

Hello everyone!
I was wondering if somebody will sue me if I (try to) make a sequel to Giants.

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Post by Xentek » Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:38 pm

If you really want to know, you should check who owns the rights, what the rights envelop; and if needed for your intents and purposes, ask for permissions.

But you can also think about this: why wouldn't someone sue you for making a GCK game?

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Post by Nagadkcin » Sun Jan 23, 2011 7:36 pm

Yes, sadly "why wouldn't we" seems to be the motive behind most copyright issues. Or lawsuits in general. :D

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Post by CrapHeap » Mon Jan 24, 2011 4:18 pm

Would it still be a GCK game if I changed the name to "otubak nezitic stnaig" :) ?
Anyway, I'll try to contact planet moon to see what they say.
I really hope they don't mind, would be fun to have a non-cod like game again :) .

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Post by Nagadkcin » Mon Jan 24, 2011 11:26 pm

Spelling giants citizen kubuto backwards might resolve the legal issues, but a game with the title "otubak nezitic stnaig" wouldent sell at all unfourtunetly. :(

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Post by Xentek » Mon Jan 24, 2011 11:55 pm

How serious is this idea of 'making a sequel' anyway?

Regardless what PMC has to say, what developing/programming/writing etc experience do you have? What engine would you like to use? Any solid ideas for gameplay, missions? - and so on.

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Post by CrapHeap » Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:55 am

@[ION]Nagadkcin:
I have no intention to sell it, even considering opensource. If I made it commercial it would only be pirated.

@Xentek:
I was thinking of making some levels almost identical to the original using the Irrlicht game engine (irrlicht.sourceforge.net). I think I have the needed skills to write something like that (not sure about the moddeling/texturing, however), the only reason I haven't made another game before is that I seem to lose intrest in something after I write the hello world :)

will be continued.

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Post by Nagadkcin » Tue Jan 25, 2011 3:38 pm

Have you considdered simply making an expansion pack for gck rather than an entire new game?

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Post by CrapHeap » Tue Jan 25, 2011 4:53 pm

I think making an expansion would be very difficult without the original source code. I could of course decompile the game, but that would feel sort of... illegal :p.
also, I have been writing hello-worlds in irrlicht for some time now, so I am used to it.

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Post by CrapHeap » Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:50 pm

I just found someone willing to do the pathfinding ai!
This could just become a real game someday :P

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Post by Nagadkcin » Tue Jan 25, 2011 11:44 pm

Is there any way do decompile it without planet moon(which is now a division of bigpoint) of knowing? then you wouldent need a new AI or have to createyour own 3D files/ bitmaps. Also I think I remenber when olden macgroin(one of the programers of gck) was here, he talked about a source code which had somthing to do with the game's vital functions, which he would be willing to hand over. Heres' the link to the post: http://www.giantswd.org/forum/viewtopic ... ight=#8427

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Post by CrapHeap » Wed Jan 26, 2011 12:53 pm

I think it would be possible to decompile giants without planet moon knowing, the problem is that most decompilers/reverse engineering tools will only be able to produce source code if they know what processor/compiler/programming language/etcetera were originally used.
Another option is to hack planet moon's pc's and retrieve the code from there, which may sound fun but is a little more illegal than I would like it to be.

About the post you linked to:
Olden macgroin seems to have left this community, or at least didn't post anything since 2004 :(.
I also think, as this is the biggest (or at least the only one known to me) GCK mod site, it would be no problem to get to the models and bitmaps.

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Post by Nagadkcin » Wed Jan 26, 2011 3:14 pm

True, When do you intend to begin work on the game, If you need any help on the targa/bmp files( especialy If you want new skins for the HUD, weapons, and chareters ect.) just give me a buzz, I'l be more than happy to asist in the creation of a Sequel to GCK.

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Post by CrapHeap » Wed Jan 26, 2011 4:29 pm

now that's the spirit!
I will begin coding Friday evening or Saturday morning, depending on how creative I feel.

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Post by Nagadkcin » Wed Jan 26, 2011 10:28 pm

Where will you begin?

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